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olenka"Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 7:42pm Friday 5th Apr
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Hi everyone
Last year bought this four shiro utsuri at 10 cm to grow in inside pond through the winter at temperature +21C and this spring they are going in the main pond outside.They are now 28-35cm.
I like them all but I only can have two as I promised to give two to my dad in-law.
Could you please tell me which one has best future potential for me to keep.
Don’t really want to make a mistake and give away the best one.
Please see photos
Thanks in Advance
Nataliya





olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 7:43pm Friday 5th Apr
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Showa was add by mistake 😉😊
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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 8:05pm Friday 5th Apr | message edited once
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Hi Nataliya, if they were mine I would be keeping the first two, difficult to judge properly from the photos but the first seems to be by far the best one followed by the second.

Kind regards

Wayne
olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 8:17pm Friday 5th Apr
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Thanks Wayne
The first one when I bought looked like this and I didn’t know what to expect but it’s changing to nice shiro.


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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 10:43pm Friday 5th Apr


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Got to agree with Wayne I preferer the first two but no 2 is the one I like out of the two.

Jim
olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 9:47am Saturday 6th Apr
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Thank you Jim
What about third one do you think it could turn to a nice one?
It know that it is always a gamble with shiro utsuri.I am after a nice pattern and when I bought third one it had nice sumi pattern and bright white but now sumi overpower more on the head.
I get always wrong with this kind of koi😏
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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 9:53am Saturday 6th Apr


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It all depends on your preference, the shape looks ok but at the moment 3 & 4 have heavier sumi than I prefer. But going by what has happened to the first fish that may change.
Worth keeping to see how they develop and please keep posting their development .
Who is the breeder.

Regards Jim
olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 10:11am Saturday 6th Apr
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First one koi master 😊Chris
And three are NND
olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 10:18am Saturday 6th Apr | message edited once
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Third one 6 month ago when I bought looked like this 15cm.
Now 28cm


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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 10:49am Saturday 6th Apr
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Hi Nataliya the Sumi has come up where it was underlying on this but there’s always the possibility that it may recede a bit over this summer, why don’t you hang on to all four until the autumn you may have a better idea by then.

Regards

Wayne
olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 7:22pm Saturday 6th Apr
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Thank you once again Wayne!
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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 11:32am Saturday 6th Apr
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wayne you are quite right,guess who bred it.

regards chris m.

koimasters
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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 6:58pm Saturday 6th Apr


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The first 2 look like they have better body shape than the other 2 plus the sumi placement is nice.
But like Wayne said they are prone to change quite a bit.

I have got 2 shiro's that had lovely sumi placement and are now both nearly completely white. They take a few years to get to their best or so I have been told.


Laura

olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 7:24pm Saturday 6th Apr
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Hi Laura, thank you very much😉
14TB

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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 8:51pm Saturday 6th Apr


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Hi Nataliya,

I like the first one but almost anything can happen with shiro. The black (Sumi) can come and go but in the pectoral fins it MIGHT come but does not usually go .So in my opinion you have chosen well as all four koi have black (motogoru) in the base of both the pecs.

You have done really well to get koi from 10cm to over 30 cm over winter.


Tony


olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 9:29pm Saturday 6th Apr
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Hi Tony,thank you for your opinion .
I fed them twice a day shrimps and twice Hikari staple.
I kept them in inside pond at temperature 21C”for 6 month.
I heated pond for the first time and will not do it again as it is too expensive 🥴
When they were around 10cm they only had small motogoro and now all of them has black all over pectoral fins and I am wondering if it is good sign?!

14TB

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"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 9:37pm Sunday 7th Apr


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Hi Nataliya,
The motogoru will probably recede but still remain ,but nothing is certain.


Tony


olenka"RE: Cant make my mind on Shiro Utsuri." 6:10pm Tuesday 9th Apr
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Thanks Tony


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