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14TB

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"Autumn routines." 10:48pm Saturday 30th Sep | message edited once


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What are peoples Autumn routines?

E.g.
Put nets over pond to keep out leaves.

Check Koi and treat if necessary before temperature drops to ensure healthy Koi going in to winter.

Filter maintenance?

Do you increase temperature to around 23c to maximise feeding before winter or do you allow temp to drop naturally?

What do you do ? Are you heated or not? Is your pond indoors or outdoors?



Tony


michaelf

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"RE: Autumn routines." 8:53am Sunday 1st Oct
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Tony,

I am changing my routine this year now that pond is enclosed.

I am heated at 20 degrees at present and feeding.

I treated the pond in September with Virasure to disinfect after making so many changes to the pond setup and filtration being off for 2 weeks.

I purchased some new koi so I also treated with PP and then Fluke M. I was going to do FMG as well, but, decided against as all was looking well.

I am going to stay at 20 degrees until late November. I will then lower temperature to 14 degrees for the winter period.

Previously I have not fed during the winter because I have lowered temperature to 4 degrees. With my new setup I don't think that this is possible so I will continue to feed lightly this year especially as I am keeping temperature at 14 degrees.

The new Filtration System is excellent so no need for me to do anything with it except to make sure that it is working.

Michael.


10,000 gals. ProfiDrum CombiBio 50, Duratech 19+ Heat Pump, Bakki Shower.
14TB

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"RE: Autumn routines." 12:21am Monday 2nd Oct


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Thanks Michael.

Being covered and heated will certainly extend your koi season and enjoyment, I am jealous.

Does being covered cause problems with condensation?
If so how do you solve it?

Did you p.p.,fluke treat after a scrape or just as a precaution?

Any pictures, details of new Koi?


Tony


michaelf

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"RE: Autumn routines." 8:08am Monday 2nd Oct
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Tony,

I have a big condensation problem. Thinking about how to solve by adding more ventilation, but, that will reduce heat retention.

I treated as a precaution as I do not net my Koi. If I ever do try and net Koi I need two people one at both ends of pond due to the size.

Michael.


10,000 gals. ProfiDrum CombiBio 50, Duratech 19+ Heat Pump, Bakki Shower.
crell

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"RE: Autumn routines." 1:49pm Monday 2nd Oct


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No change in my routine until after Chrismas apart from LED lights come on early morning until sunrise and early evening until 22:00 hours so feeding remains the same as the summer months.
LED lights set on timer


Crell


14TB

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"RE: Autumn routines." 9:23pm Monday 2nd Oct


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Great idea Dave.
LED lights set on timer ,massive energy savings Dave and the light can be quite natural. Slowly changing all my lighting to led.



Tony


14TB

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"RE: Autumn routines." 9:19pm Monday 2nd Oct | message edited once


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Hi Michael,
Heard that having the air temperature 2 degrees higher than the pond stops Condensation but still not easy to manage as air temp wants to raise pond temp.
A happy problem to have.

Maybe others will share their solutions?


Tony


mattywhart10

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"RE: Autumn routines." 12:34pm Thursday 5th Oct
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My first winter heated however I'm not covered & unsure how to go about things leading up to winter I'm currently at 20°C feeding moderately with a mixture of JPD SHORI & ALL WEATHER Food .any advice would be helpful
pauland sue

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"RE: Autumn routines." 12:14pm Friday 6th Oct
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I like you are enclosed and I dropped my temp last year to 8 d and it never went below 12 d just shows the benefits of enclosing your pond it has to be a thought for those who can.


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koimasters

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"RE: Autumn routines." 1:55pm Friday 6th Oct
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the best way to solve your condensation problem is to ensure the air is warmer than the water,2 degrees will do.

regards chris m.

koimasters

michaelf

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"RE: Autumn routines." 5:28pm Friday 6th Oct
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Chris,

With my setup it is easier said than done. People will understand when they visit on our Last Supper trip of the year. Heating the water is one thing, but, then also heating the air is probably a step to far.

Michael


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koimasters

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"RE: Autumn routines." 7:25pm Friday 6th Oct
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Then sorry you will not get rid of the condensation,been there suffered that ononly way is as i said.
pauland sue

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"RE: Autumn routines." 11:07am Saturday 7th Oct
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Hi Micheal I dont know what sort of windows you have on your pond but I have a tilt and turn one at the front i leave it on tilt and it does help a bit and nothing can get in only fresh air I tried the air bit like Chris said and it does work but it costs I also cut a 4inch hole in the pump house wall and but an air brick over it it all helps


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crell

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"RE: Autumn routines." 11:43am Saturday 7th Oct


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I just live with condensation, Its a lot cheaper
I put my waterproofs on when entering the fish house


Crell


JIMMY/S

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"RE: Autumn routines." 7:03pm Sunday 8th Oct


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A few years ago we visited a pond that was enclosed and I asked the question about condensation.
The owner told me he also covered the pond wit pollycarb sheets which solved the condensation problems.

Jim


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